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From Watergate to WikiLeaks: Journalism and Secrecy in the New Media Age

Panel II: National Challenges

Whither the Gatekeeper? Navigating New Rules and Roles in the Age of Radical Transparency

Panel II: National Challenges

(12/16/2010)

11:27

wantonymous:

I hope someone remembers to turn the mic back on when the break is over. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:27 wantonymous

11:27

Jonathan Seitz:

Welcome back to the Nieman Foundation's conference on Secrecy and Journalism.

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:27 Jonathan Seitz

11:28

Jonathan Seitz:

We're still waiting for the next panel to start. The title is "Whither the Gatekeeper? Navigating New Rules and Roles in the Age of Radical Transparency."

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:28 Jonathan Seitz

11:28

Korsnes:

Scorpions v. Hawks? #Niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:28 Korsnes

11:29

Jonathan Seitz:

Speakers are Maggie Mulvihill (MM), Walter Pincus (WP), Danielle Brian (DB), and Clint Hendler (CH)

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:29 Jonathan Seitz

11:29

glenngilbert2:

RT @NiemanReports: Coming up at 11:30 a.m. (EST): WP's Walter Pincus, others at #NiemanLeaks conf: Live-streamed. http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:29 glenngilbert2

11:29

Jonathan Seitz:

Speaker bios are avialable at http://nieman.harvard.edu/Microsites/SecrecyAndJournalismInTheNewMediaAge/Speakers.aspx

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:29 Jonathan Seitz

11:30

Jonathan Seitz:

And video coverage is available at http://nieman.harvard.edu/Microsites/SecrecyAndJournalismInTheNewMediaAge/MultimediaCoverage.aspx

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:30 Jonathan Seitz

11:30

NiemanLab:

RT @NiemanReports: Coming up at 11:30 a.m. (EST): WP's Walter Pincus, others at #NiemanLeaks conf: Live-streamed. http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:30 NiemanLab

11:30

niemanstory:

Now on secrecy conference livestream: Walter Pincus et al. on new roles in an age of radical transparency http://bit.ly/enZaB2. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:30 niemanstory

11:30

Jonathan Seitz:

This panel will be moderated by Melissa Ludtke, the editor of Nieman Reports.

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:30 Jonathan Seitz

11:30

innovatenews:

RT @saleemkhan: Today: #NiemanLeaks secrecy and journalism conference, Harvard. http://j.mp/NLsched LIVE: http://j.mp/NLlive [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:30 innovatenews

11:31

Jonathan Seitz:

Ludtke quoting Nick Carr "Wikileaks Taps Power of the Press" http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/13/business/media/13carr.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:31 Jonathan Seitz

11:32

BBCPhilippaT:

#niemanleaks is back and debating new journalism rules and roles in the age of #wikileaks. Whither the gatekeeper? [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:32 BBCPhilippaT

11:32

HollmanMorris:

RT @NiemanLab: RT @NiemanReports: Coming up at 11:30 a.m. (EST): WP's Walter Pincus, others at #NiemanLeaks conf: Live-streamed. http ... [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:32 HollmanMorris

11:33

Jonathan Seitz:

Note: Mulvihill is not on stage right now. She should be joining us soon.

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:33 Jonathan Seitz

11:35

lalorek:

How do journalists navigate their roles in the age of radical transparency? Watch #Niemanleaks on journalism & secrecy http://nie.mn/ejgh4P [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:35 lalorek

11:35

BBCPhilippaT:

With us, Danielle Brian of POGO, the Project on Govt Oversight; Walter Pincus of WaPo ; Clint Hendler of CJR #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:35 BBCPhilippaT

11:36

Jonathan Seitz:

Clint Hedler wrote about WaPo's unsigned editorial re: wikileaks http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/wapos_puzzling_stance_on_wikil.php

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:36 Jonathan Seitz

11:36

jonathanstray:

Leman's "people in the digital world always saying we don't need journalists" -- Ugh. No one is saying that. http://j.mp/eA8qcM #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:36 jonathanstray

11:37

Jonathan Seitz:

Maggie Mulvihill, of BU, wrote for Nieman Reports about "Perilous Times" http://nieman.harvard.edu/reports/article/101071/Perilous-Times-for-First-Amendment-Rights.aspx

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:37 Jonathan Seitz

11:38

hope_reese:

#niemanleaks listening to melissa ludtke on livestream in the lobby of lippmann house! stream here:http://bit.ly/gYfO1i [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:38 hope_reese

11:39

Jonathan Seitz:

Ludtke's currently quoting from another Nieman Reports piece by Walter Pincus http://www.nieman.harvard.edu/reports/article/100094/Secrets-and-the-Press.aspx

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:39 Jonathan Seitz

11:40

jonathanstray:

Now speaking on Wikileaks: Walter Pincus, Washington Post intelligence and national security reporter. http://bit.ly/gYfO1i #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:40 jonathanstray

11:41

Jonathan Seitz:

Walter Pincus, intelligence and national security reporter for WaPo, is first.

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:41 Jonathan Seitz

11:41

Jonathan Seitz:

WP: I'm in awe of these foreign journalists who face threats for doing what I do at no danger.

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:41 Jonathan Seitz

11:41

Perceiver1219:

RT @POGOBlog: POGO's @daniellebrian talks secrecy, journalism, #wikileaks at @NiemanReports http://pogo.ly/iBscFC view: http://pogo.ly/QZU6vv #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:41 Perceiver1219

11:42

Jonathan Seitz:

WP: I used WikiLeaks before he was famous.

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:42 Jonathan Seitz

11:43

Jonathan Seitz:

WP: He's a source,, who knows how to use public relations (re: Assange/Wikileaks)

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:43 Jonathan Seitz

11:43

jonathanstray:

Pincus: I used Wikileaks before it became famous, when they used to post documents one at a time. I can't do 250,000 at once. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:43 jonathanstray

11:43

BBCPhilippaT:

Washington Post "veteran" intelligence reporter Walter Pincus: #wikileaks is one more source but one that plays a clever PR game#niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:43 BBCPhilippaT

11:43

DavidLeBoeuf:

Walter Pincus of Washington post says Lasange knew how to play public relations game. Emphasized we are now in PR society #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:43 DavidLeBoeuf

11:43

NiemanReports:

WP Walter Pincus : "We are now in a PR society." #niemanLeaks live-streamed conf http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:43 NiemanReports

11:43

KWRutter:

RT @MandySB Love the red tights @daniellebrian is rocking for #NiemanLeaks -- cool colored tights must be a @smithcollege thing [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:43 KWRutter

11:43

Jonathan Seitz:

WP: Assange made a very clever deal with five newspapers. set deadlines, and started competition. guaranteed him fame

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:43 Jonathan Seitz

11:44

media140:

RT @NiemanReports: Live feed from the #NiemanLeaks journalism conf http://bit.ly/eYfAcp // one to watch, you'll need RealPlayer #media140 [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:44 media140

11:44

Jonathan Seitz:

WP: MY resposiblity is to lay out a standard. 1. is it true? 2. is it relevant? in context? 3. Is is something that I think the public ought to know?

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:44 Jonathan Seitz

11:44

lalorek:

"We are now in a PR society" said @Washingtonpost Walter Pincus #Niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:44 lalorek

11:45

Jonathan Seitz:

WP: My rule is that we never write about govt activity without going to the govt to get their comment on it

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:45 Jonathan Seitz

11:45

DavidLeBoeuf:

Pincus discusses analyzing sources based on validity and need for public to know information #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:45 DavidLeBoeuf

11:45

BBCPhilippaT:

WaPo's Pincus at #niemanleaks: always Q the motive of yr sources. Ask, is it true? Is it relevant? Is it in context? Shd the public know? [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:45 BBCPhilippaT

11:45

Jonathan Seitz:

WP everyon has their own rules

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:45 Jonathan Seitz

11:45

NiemanReports:

WP's Walter Pincus: Judging Wikileaks: Is it true? Is it in context? Something the public oughta know? #niemanLeaks http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:45 NiemanReports

11:45

lalorek:

"My rule is we never write about government activity without going to the government to get their comment on it," said Pincus #Niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:45 lalorek

11:46

Jonathan Seitz:

WP: My views on secrecy formed in Army as part of intelligence corps

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:46 Jonathan Seitz

11:46

POGOBlog:

RT @KWRutter: RT @MandySB Love the red tights @daniellebrian is rocking for #NiemanLeaks -- cool colored tights must be a @smithcollege ... [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:46 POGOBlog

11:46

wantonymous:

RT @BBCPhilippaT: WaPo's Pincus at #niemanleaks: always Q the motive of yr sources. Ask, is it true? Is it relevant? Is it in context? ... [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:46 wantonymous

11:46

TauxFu:

RT @nottinhill Get Pro-Wikileaks Avatars for your Twitter/ Facebook accounts here: http://bit.ly/fXHyIX #imwikileaks #cablegate #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:46 TauxFu

11:47

riparian:

WaPo's Pincus: #wikileaks just another source. one of an enormous # of public sources of information. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:47 riparian

11:47

Jonathan Seitz:

WP: I think the wikileaks release left it up to journalists to decide what to print.. and I think that's the right thing.

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:47 Jonathan Seitz

11:47

DavidLeBoeuf:

Pincus is bringing up interesting point of individual discretion in classifying and declassifying information #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:47 DavidLeBoeuf

11:47

BBCPhilippaT:

Walter Pincus describes classification of information as "a game" played by government. #wikileaks #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:47 BBCPhilippaT

11:47

jonathanstray:

Pincus: Wikileaks release left it up to journalists to decide what to write, and I think that's the right thing. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:47 jonathanstray

11:47

Jonathan Seitz:

WP There is more news in Washington than is fit to print. How much of it is really read?

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:47 Jonathan Seitz

11:48

nottinhill:

@TauxFu TY for RT. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:48 nottinhill

11:48

KWRutter:

RT @DavidLeBoeuf Pincus is bringing up interesting point of individual discretion in classifying and declassifying information #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:48 KWRutter

11:48

lalorek:

"My problem with Wikileaks is how much of it has really been read?" Pincus said at #Niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:48 lalorek

11:48

jonathanstray:

Pincus: my problem, that Wikileaks highlights: how much of [all types of available govt docs] have really been read? #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:48 jonathanstray

11:49

Jonathan Seitz:

WP: Every day of the week there is a kind of wiklleak material put out in public that nobody reads.

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:49 Jonathan Seitz

11:49

abranches:

RT @NiemanReports #niemanLeaks conferemce Watch live: http://bit.ly/eYfAcp pretty good now [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:49 abranches

11:49

Jonathan Seitz:

WP Contract by the government are all published. That's how WP covered the war without going to Iraq

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:49 Jonathan Seitz

11:50

NiemanReports:

WP's Walter Pincus: Good source: FBO Daily -- all contracts US govt puts out & awards it makes #niemanLeaks http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:50 NiemanReports

11:50

riparian:

pincus: every day there is #wikileaks-like material, FBO Daily, which lists all U.S. government contracts. #Niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:50 riparian

11:50

jonathanstray:

Pincus: Every day of the week all the contracts the US govt puts out are published. Who reads? I've reported on them for years. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:50 jonathanstray

11:50

Jonathan Seitz:

WP $3.5 billion worth of construction in Afghanistan, some not to be completed until 2012. We're leaving in 2011. From military review: Afghanistan is our base in Middle east

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:50 Jonathan Seitz

11:50

DavidLeBoeuf:

FBO is a public source for government contracts- used to analyze war activities #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:50 DavidLeBoeuf

11:51

BBCPhilippaT:

Pincus, look at the obvious! Read FBOdaily.com on govt contracts, it's full of the kind of info that #Wikileaks promotes. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:51 BBCPhilippaT

11:51

Jonathan Seitz:

QP: One of the lessons: huge amount of information never gets in the paper, because other people are having press conferences to try to get into the paper

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:51 Jonathan Seitz

11:51

lalorek:

Lesson from Wikileaks is there is a huge amount of material coming out of government that people just don't read, says Pincus #NiemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:51 lalorek

11:51

NiemanReports:

WP's Walter Pincus: what about the "secrets" that are hiding in plain sight in public docs? #niemanLeaks http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:51 NiemanReports

11:51

Jonathan Seitz:

Danielle Brian, executive director of Project on Government Oversight (POGO) is next

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:51 Jonathan Seitz

11:52

Jonathan Seitz:

DB: Wikileaks has dominated our world, because it covers everything we care about

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:52 Jonathan Seitz

11:52

BBCPhilippaT:

Pincus says we're too fascinated by the officially "secret", we sometimes forget to check what's out there in plain sight. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:52 BBCPhilippaT

11:52

Jonathan Seitz:

DB: Everyone talks about Assange, but we forget about Bradley MAnning

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:52 Jonathan Seitz

11:52

jonathanstray:

Pincus:The fact that there is a [secret] stamp on it doesn't make it true. The fact that it's open doesn't make it unimportant. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:52 jonathanstray

11:52

Jonathan Seitz:

DB: No safe channels for disclosure even of unclassified documents.

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:52 Jonathan Seitz

11:52

jonathanstray:

RT @NiemanReports: WP's Walter Pincus: Good source: FBO Daily -- all contracts US govt puts out & awards it makes #niemanLeaks http://b ... [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:52 jonathanstray

11:53

Jonathan Seitz:

DB: Don't know what Manning's deal with WL was, but POGO would have mentored him

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:53 Jonathan Seitz

11:53

BBCPhilippaT:

Danielle Brian of POGO: lets not forget Bradley Mann, who is sitting in jail because of #wikileaks. There is "no safe channel #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:53 BBCPhilippaT

11:53

wantonymous:

DanielleBrian: There is no safe outlet for whistleblowers. #FreeBradleyManning #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:53 wantonymous

11:53

Jonathan Seitz:

DB: try to keep source out of jail, and keepn legitimate secrets secret

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:53 Jonathan Seitz

11:54

DavidLeBoeuf:

Danielle Brian of POGO says there are no protections for whistle blowers, not even for unclassified info #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:54 DavidLeBoeuf

11:54

BBCPhilippaT:

Danielle Brian of POGO says whistleblowers like Bradley Mann need to be mentored and managed #niemanleaks #wikileaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:54 BBCPhilippaT

11:54

KWRutter:

RT @jonathanstray Pincus: Wikileaks release left it up to journalists to decide what to write, and I think that's right thing #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:54 KWRutter

11:54

Jonathan Seitz:

DB: Giving example of story about plutonium and uranium storage, which they were working on when 9/11 happened.

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:54 Jonathan Seitz

11:55

jonathanstray:

@daniellebrian: We're not talking about Manning. It's hard for whistleblowers to come forward with even un-classified info #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:55 jonathanstray

11:55

BBCPhilippaT:

Sorry, Bradley Manning ! #journalistsshouldgettheirfactsstraight [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:55 BBCPhilippaT

11:55

jonathanstray:

RT @BBCPhilippaT: Danielle Brian of POGO says whistleblowers like Bradley Mann need to be mentored and managed #niemanleaks #wikileaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:55 jonathanstray

11:55

Jonathan Seitz:

DB: was a dangerous situation, and we reported on it to get the discussion about vulnerability going

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:55 Jonathan Seitz

11:55

Jonathan Seitz:

DB We've dealt with information retroactively classified after we released it.

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:55 Jonathan Seitz

11:56

KWRutter:

RT @wantonymous @DanielleBrian: There is no safe outlet for whistleblowers. #FreeBradleyManning #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:56 KWRutter

11:56

Jonathan Seitz:

DB; reported on Area51, Air Force tried to get back all the information they had by retroactively classifying

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:56 Jonathan Seitz

11:56

jonathanstray:

One thing @daniellebrian's philosophy misses: truly anonymous leaking is now a technical possibility. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:56 jonathanstray

11:56

DavidLeBoeuf:

Project on Government Oversight talks of challenges of handling national security info, including retroactive classification #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:56 DavidLeBoeuf

11:56

POGOBlog:

RT @KWRutter: RT @wantonymous @DanielleBrian: There is no safe outlet for whistleblowers. #FreeBradleyManning #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:56 POGOBlog

11:57

BBCPhilippaT:

Danielle Brian talks about info POGO has released being "retroactively classified" eg on Area 51, eg on nuclear power plants. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:57 BBCPhilippaT

11:57

Jonathan Seitz:

DB said she was given clearance for 2 hours, so that she could go over story on Nuclear regulatory commission. "It is a game."

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:57 Jonathan Seitz

11:58

jonathanstray:

@daniellebrian: I think it's important not to take too seriously how the government has classified something. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:58 jonathanstray

11:58

Jonathan Seitz:

DB: The first amendment applies to everyone. "With the rights, there are also responsibilites. That's the way we approach these matters."

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:58 Jonathan Seitz

11:58

POGOBlog:

"They sprinkled pixie dust on me and I had a temporary security clearance...it was a game." @daniellebrian #NiemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:58 POGOBlog

11:58

BBCPhilippaT:

Danielle Brian of Project on Govt Oversight and Walter Pincus of WaPo agreeing, "yes, it's a game". With deadly consequences? #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:58 BBCPhilippaT

11:58

jonathanstray:

RT @POGOBlog: "They sprinkled pixie dust on me and I had a temporary security clearance...it was a game." @daniellebrian #NiemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:58 jonathanstray

11:59

NiemanReports:

Danielle Brian (POGO) at #niemanLeaks conf : It doesn't matter if WikiLeaks is journo org. 1st A. applies to everyone http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:59 NiemanReports

11:59

Jonathan Seitz:

DB: Other issue get in the way of real issue: Better classification/declassification policies and channels for whistleblowers

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:59 Jonathan Seitz

11:59

DavidLeBoeuf:

Brian discusses of need for better and standardized classification and declassification processes #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:59 DavidLeBoeuf

11:59

BBCPhilippaT:

RT“@jonathanstray: One thing @daniellebrian's philosophy misses: truly anonymous leaking is now a technical possibility. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:59 BBCPhilippaT

11:59

Jonathan Seitz:

Clint Hedler, Senior Writer for Columbia Journalism Review, is up

Thursday December 16, 2010 11:59 Jonathan Seitz

12:00

Jonathan Seitz:

CH the idea that we live in an age of open data is a promise, more than a reality

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:00 Jonathan Seitz

12:00

cosmicsmudge:

RT @pogoblog: To watch @daniellebrian and the discussion about #wikileaks @NiemanLab click here - http://pogo.ly/NIG1fz #NiemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:00 cosmicsmudge

12:00

POGOBlog:

President Clinton vetoed the Official Secrets Act, but @daniellebrian doesn't think Obama would fight that over-classification #Niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:00 POGOBlog

12:00

BBCPhilippaT:

CJR's Clint Hendler saying talk of the age of open data is still more promise than reality. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:00 BBCPhilippaT

12:00

Jonathan Seitz:

CH: it used to require more analog work to get data, now everything can go up on servers and anyone can access

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:00 Jonathan Seitz

12:01

Jonathan Seitz:

CH One of key functions of journalists was to break the barrier and get access to the data

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:01 Jonathan Seitz

12:01

jonathanstray:

@daniellebrian: the question of is Wikileaks journalism misses the point. I think the 1st amendment applies to... me. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:01 jonathanstray

12:02

BBCPhilippaT:

"Just having access to the data doesnt mean that we can understand it". Need journalists to break that barrier. Clint Hendler #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:02 BBCPhilippaT

12:02

Jonathan Seitz:

CH Easy to forget that WikilLeaks had been around for 4 years

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:02 Jonathan Seitz

12:02

Jonathan Seitz:

CH: Not that earlier data wasn't interesting, but that they had a different model. They used to just post it on their website.

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:02 Jonathan Seitz

12:03

riparian:

CJR's Clint Hendler: Don't forget that #Wikileaks was posting items for four years before it got the 'Collateral Murder' video.#niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:03 riparian

12:03

KWRutter:

RT @POGOBlog Pres Clinton vetoed the Official Secrets Act, but @daniellebrian doesn't think Obama would fight that #Niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:03 KWRutter

12:03

Jonathan Seitz:

CH: "Collateral Murder' video was turning point. WL amede editorial decisions re: context and title, and other journalists put together more information

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:03 Jonathan Seitz

12:04

DavidLeBoeuf:

Clint Hendler of the Columbia Journalism review discusses the editorializing WikiLeaks used on labeling released videos #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:04 DavidLeBoeuf

12:04

Jonathan Seitz:

CH: you can see the seeds of what happened wth the Afghan war logs and cables

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:04 Jonathan Seitz

12:05

Jonathan Seitz:

CH: WL gave the media orgs the chance to create narratives around the data. e.g., C.J. Chivers's reconstruction of firefight

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:05 Jonathan Seitz

12:05

ejgraff:

RT @NiemanReports: Florence Graves from Brandeis journo institute offers to make FOIA requests for foreign journos #niemanLeaks conf [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:05 ejgraff

12:05

Jonathan Seitz:

CH: "System that was birthed here allowed the outlets near exclusives"

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:05 Jonathan Seitz

12:06

BBCPhilippaT:

Clint Hendler of CJR says key that #wikileaks gave advance info to "blue-chip" media organisations, to get it in context. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:06 BBCPhilippaT

12:07

Jonathan Seitz:

CH: Assange said, while working in Guardian Newsroom, that without someone taking care of these documents, that they weren't going to get the impact they wanted.

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:07 Jonathan Seitz

12:07

DavidLeBoeuf:

Hendler notes unconventional nature of WikiLeaks release was to get news agencies to take information seriously #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:07 DavidLeBoeuf

12:07

BBCPhilippaT:

CJR's Clint Hendler says has on good authority that Assange recognised not getting the #wikileaks impact he wanted without traditional media [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:07 BBCPhilippaT

12:08

Jonathan Seitz:

CH: If you file FOIA, you have a good idea that you're going to be first get what you ask for. With information online, that aspect is lost. Becomes more about finding the stories Getting data is just the first step

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:08 Jonathan Seitz

12:08

wantonymous:

@opleakspin: Experts at #niemanleaks all suggest that journalism's additions to #wikileaks releases (e.g., context, relevance) are essential [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:08 wantonymous

12:08

Jonathan Seitz:

Maggie Mulvihill is here. Was at board meeting of New England First Amendment Coalition

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:08 Jonathan Seitz

12:09

Jonathan Seitz:

MM is the senior investigative producer for Boston University's New England Center for Investigative Reporting

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:09 Jonathan Seitz

12:10

Jonathan Seitz:

MM: when I was with Boston Herald, we had increasing trouble getting access to government documents following 9/11

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:10 Jonathan Seitz

12:10

DavidLeBoeuf:

Maggie Mulvihill of the NE Center for investigative Reporting talks about increase in government secrecy, even on local level #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:10 DavidLeBoeuf

12:10

Jonathan Seitz:

MM: If public wasn't upset about govt keeping reporters from covering funerals, how would access trickle down to local level

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:10 Jonathan Seitz

12:11

BBCPhilippaT:

Maggie Mulvihill, New England centre for Investigative Reporting: post 9/11 we had trouble getting access to even basic details #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:11 BBCPhilippaT

12:11

Jonathan Seitz:

MM "On the local level, Government transparency is just as critical as any agency in Washington or New York"

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:11 Jonathan Seitz

12:11

DavidLeBoeuf:

Mulvihill emphasizes lack of digitization as way to extract fees for information and to block access to public #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:11 DavidLeBoeuf

12:12

Jonathan Seitz:

MM: Our audience was working class [at Boston Herald[] and I always felt that they deserved the same elvel of public-accountability journalism as WSJ or NYT readers

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:12 Jonathan Seitz

12:12

jonathanstray:

Mulvihill: national agencies set the tone for local govt secrecy. It's a problem. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:12 jonathanstray

12:13

lalorek:

Maggie Mulvihill of NE Center for Investigative Reporting talks about the importance of access to documents on the local level #NiemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:13 lalorek

12:13

DavidLeBoeuf:

Mulvihill is touting need for increased investigative journalism on local level, seeing it as true service to our communities #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:13 DavidLeBoeuf

12:14

Jonathan Seitz:

MM: It's pretty clear that when our readers are up to no good, they need to know we're watching

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:14 Jonathan Seitz

12:14

lalorek:

"Deep accountability reporting on the local level is really important, we've got to do it," says Mulvihill #NiemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:14 lalorek

12:14

Jonathan Seitz:

MM Someone needs to keep watch, which is why she and Joe Bergantino founded NECIR

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:14 Jonathan Seitz

12:15

Jonathan Seitz:

For more info on NECIR, see the article Mulvihill and Bergantino wrote for Nieman Reports: http://www.nieman.harvard.edu/reports/article/101563/Filling-a-Local-Void-J-School-Students-Tackle-Watchdog-Reporting.aspx

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:15 Jonathan Seitz

12:15

NiemanReports:

Maggie Mulvihill argues need for inves reporting on local level: plenty of crime in Mass. government #niemanLeaks http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:15 NiemanReports

12:15

Jonathan Seitz:

MM: We need to train next gen. of reporters. NEed to teach them that govt works for them

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:15 Jonathan Seitz

12:16

BBCPhilippaT:

Maggie Mulvihill says "defiant local journalists" set out to create her centre to uncover corruption "at a micro-level". #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:16 BBCPhilippaT

12:16

Jonathan Seitz:

MM: The gap is not on the antional stage. They'll alwasy have the big guys -- NYT, ABC news --- ... but what about the county sheriff or school board official who's up to no good.

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:16 Jonathan Seitz

12:16

DavidLeBoeuf:

"When our readers are up to no good, they need to know that we are watching"- Mulvihill #niemanLeaks Favorite quote of the conference so far [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:16 DavidLeBoeuf

12:16

lalorek:

"The gap is not on the national stage" Mulvihill said. "We'll always have the big guys like the NYTimes." #NiemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:16 lalorek

12:16

Jonathan Seitz:

MM: I call it "Low to the ground reporting". or "Close to the Bone reporting"

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:16 Jonathan Seitz

12:17

Jonathan Seitz:

MM: Get in close and touch on what people need to know

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:17 Jonathan Seitz

12:17

NiemanReports:

RT @bydanielvictor: I responded to "is aggregation end of journalism?" comment on the @niemanreports piece about @TBD: http://bit.ly/fTuNjT [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:17 NiemanReports

12:18

lalorek:

"But what about the local county sheriff?" says Mulvihill. Every community needs an investigative reporting center. #NiemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:18 lalorek

12:18

emilybell:

RT @wantonymous: @opleakspin: Experts at #niemanleaks all suggest that journalism's additions to #wikileaks releases (e.g., context, rel ... [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:18 emilybell

12:18

BBCPhilippaT:

Good pt. "Close to the bone" reporting at most granular local level needs open data just as much as global stories. Mulvihill. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:18 BBCPhilippaT

12:19

emilybell:

RT @NiemanReports: Maggie Mulvihill argues need for inves reporting on local level: plenty of crime in Mass. government #niemanLeaks h ... [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:19 emilybell

12:20

lalorek:

Maggie Mulvihill is correct. We need investigative reporting centers in places like San Antonio, Texas. Huge need exists. #NiemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:20 lalorek

12:20

jonathanstray:

RT @lalorek: "The gap is not on the national stage" Mulvihill said. "We'll always have the big guys like the NYTimes." #NiemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:20 jonathanstray

12:20

DavidLeBoeuf:

Interesting- report on racial profiling in Cambridge found more whites arrested than blacks for disorderly conduct #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:20 DavidLeBoeuf

12:20

BBCPhilippaT:

Here's Maggie Mulvihill's local watchdog project in New England http://necir-bu.org/wp/ #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:20 BBCPhilippaT

12:20

NiemanReports:

Maggie Mulvihill of New England Center for Inves Reporting at BU: We train folks to dig into records #niemanLeaks http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:20 NiemanReports

12:21

Jonathan Seitz:

MM: "We've tried to inculcate in our students .. the notion that this kind of reporting has to continue"

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:21 Jonathan Seitz

12:21

jonathanstray:

RT @BBCPhilippaT: Here's Maggie Mulvihill's local watchdog project in New England http://necir-bu.org/wp/ #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:21 jonathanstray

12:22

Jonathan Seitz:

MM is done. Moving on to question time.

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:22 Jonathan Seitz

12:22

Jonathan Seitz:

We'll try to get some reader questions in this time out. Please post any that you'd like us to pass along.

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:22 Jonathan Seitz

12:22

BBCPhilippaT:

Just had to RT @andyecoulson via@jonathanstray: If #Assange is not stopped it will leave a single Australian (cont) http://tl.gd/7hfgdj [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:22 BBCPhilippaT

12:23

Jonathan Seitz:

Q1: How important is the motivation of leakers?

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:23 Jonathan Seitz

12:24

Jonathan Seitz:

WP: I think it's important to find out what the person's reason is. I get most of teh classified information from people I've known a long time. If you're talking to people and don;t know the doc. you can't tell if it's classified or not

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:24 Jonathan Seitz

12:24

Jonathan Seitz:

WP: Most people who call me and want protection off the bat have information that's wrong

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:24 Jonathan Seitz

12:24

Jonathan Seitz:

WP: Most important: Is info accurate? Is it newsworthy?

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:24 Jonathan Seitz

12:24

DavidLeBoeuf:

Pincus notes most classified information comes from conversation with relationships, cold sources often wrong #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:24 DavidLeBoeuf

12:25

Jonathan Seitz:

WP: WaPo did survey on unidentified sources, most were in Sports Dept.

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:25 Jonathan Seitz

12:25

lalorek:

"I get most of the classified documents I write about from people I've known for a long time," said Pincus #Niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:25 lalorek

12:25

BBCPhilippaT:

Walter Pincus of WaPo giving us veteran reporter's advice, "I get most of my information from people that (cont) http://tl.gd/7hfhhq [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:25 BBCPhilippaT

12:25

NiemanReports:

A ? of motive: if you leak info, must you be pure? WaPo's Pincus says: ? is value of info #niemanleaks http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:25 NiemanReports

12:26

Jonathan Seitz:

DB: Whistleblower doesn't need to be pure. But question never asked of Executive branch officials leaking information

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:26 Jonathan Seitz

12:26

jonathanstray:

Pincus: as often as not when I get a cold leak, the information is wrong. It's about accuracy and context, not source. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:26 jonathanstray

12:26

Jonathan Seitz:

DB: At end of day, it's about information. That's what really matters

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:26 Jonathan Seitz

12:26

openmediaboston:

Jason is at the Secrecy and Journalism conference at the Niemen Foundation at Harvard University #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:26 openmediaboston

12:27

Jonathan Seitz:

Q: for WP, were there cases that passed first two tests, but not the third?

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:27 Jonathan Seitz

12:27

DavidLeBoeuf:

Purity of whistle blower should not cloud out information if it is accurate says @daniellebrian #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:27 DavidLeBoeuf

12:27

Jonathan Seitz:

WP: Stories in the past about covert operations or covert agents tend to fall under there

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:27 Jonathan Seitz

12:28

Jonathan Seitz:

WP one case about an agent who sued bosses under own name. WP received name, didn't publish it.

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:28 Jonathan Seitz

12:28

BBCPhilippaT:

When is there NOT a public right to know? Walter Pincus of WaPo talking about examples of covert action. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:28 BBCPhilippaT

12:28

jonathanstray:

RT @BBCPhilippaT: When is there NOT a public right to know? Walter Pincus of WaPo talking about examples of covert action. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:28 jonathanstray

12:29

Jonathan Seitz:

WP involved in Valerie Plame case. Was told by Ari Fleischer that Joe Wilson's wife was agent

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:29 Jonathan Seitz

12:29

BBCPhilippaT:

Pincus worked on the Valerie Plame story, but says WaPo held back some of what they knew & didnt get credit. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:29 BBCPhilippaT

12:29

Jonathan Seitz:

WP just got law degree in 2001, knew that they hadn't violated the law because they didn't have bad intent

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:29 Jonathan Seitz

12:30

Jonathan Seitz:

Q: Who counts as a journalist? Why does it matter for the first amendment? What do you get when you're considered a journalist?

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:30 Jonathan Seitz

12:31

NiemanReports:

What about when public ought NOT to know? WaPo's Pincus : We decide, even when pressured by feds . #niemanLeaks http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:31 NiemanReports

12:31

Jonathan Seitz:

CH: Matters a great deal how you handle it, re: impact. Very different issue legally.

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:31 Jonathan Seitz

12:31

Jonathan Seitz:

CH: major difference between Wikileaks vs. New York Times

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:31 Jonathan Seitz

12:31

jonathanstray:

Excellent audience question: what do you get when you are considered a journalist? #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:31 jonathanstray

12:32

Jonathan Seitz:

CH: going to be very difficult for any prosecution to focus on Wikileak's role as a republisher

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:32 Jonathan Seitz

12:32

FrontlineINVSTG:

WP's Pincus: Gov't puts out revealing all the time---FBO discloses gov't contracts http://ow.ly/3qkqR & http://ow.ly/3qkyM #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:32 FrontlineINVSTG

12:32

Jonathan Seitz:

DB: I do think it matters under the law who is considered a journalists

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:32 Jonathan Seitz

12:32

BBCPhilippaT:

@clinthendler like what you're saying at niemanleaks ! [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:32 BBCPhilippaT

12:33

Jonathan Seitz:

DB: Very soon, future bradley Manning's will be able to post on their own.

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:33 Jonathan Seitz

12:33

Jonathan Seitz:

Q: Is a news organization based in the US there to serve the interest of America?

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:33 Jonathan Seitz

12:34

Jonathan Seitz:

WP: To be glib: our responsibility is to to our readers. We're not a national paper (WaPo), but our realm is national news. Our survival depends much more on our local reporting than it does on what I do

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:34 Jonathan Seitz

12:34

NiemanReports:

POGO's Danielle Brian : distinction between source, disseminator starting to blur, complicating matters #niemanLeaks http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:34 NiemanReports

12:34

FrontlineINVSTG:

WP's Pincus: Gov't puts out revealing info all the time---FBO discloses gov't contracts http://ow.ly/3qkU0 & http://ow.ly/3qkU1 #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:34 FrontlineINVSTG

12:34

BBCPhilippaT:

Is a news organisation based in the US there to serve American interests? asks @jonathanstray provocatively. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:34 BBCPhilippaT

12:34

gregoryfoster:

#Secrecy & #Journalism Conference today at the Nieman Foundation [ @NiemanLab ]; see #NiemanLeaks: http://bit.ly/i67dgE #WikiLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:34 gregoryfoster

12:35

DavidLeBoeuf:

Pincus says newspaper survival depends more on local reporting than national stories #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:35 DavidLeBoeuf

12:35

Jonathan Seitz:

Jonathan Stray, question asker: invocations of national interest seem strange if you're outside of US

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:35 Jonathan Seitz

12:36

NiemanReports:

Who believes as WaPo's Pincus says that WaPo's survival depends on local news coverage, not his beat? #niemanLeaks http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:36 NiemanReports

12:36

Jonathan Seitz:

CH: It's a very tough questions. Global interest almost becomes a third audience.

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:36 Jonathan Seitz

12:36

BBCPhilippaT:

Within the hour, Bill Keller exec ed of #NYT will ask Does Wikileaks Change Anything? #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:36 BBCPhilippaT

12:37

gregoryfoster:

Harvard #Secrecy & #Journalism Conference live streaming via RealPlayer: http://bit.ly/hHkTgD #NiemanLeaks #WikiLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:37 gregoryfoster

12:37

sarahnordgren:

RT @DavidLeBoeuf: Pincus says newspaper survival depends more on local reporting than national stories #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:37 sarahnordgren

12:37

NiemanReports:

RT @BBCPhilippaT: Within the hour, Bill Keller exec ed of #NYT will ask Does Wikileaks Change Anything? #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:37 NiemanReports

12:38

Jonathan Seitz:

Q: Are there cases when revealing state secrets would be a good thing? ie. Bay of Pigs?

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:38 Jonathan Seitz

12:38

jonathanstray:

Hendler: there are legal definitions of "journalism", but I don't know how, legally, NYT could be journalism and Wikileaks not #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:38 jonathanstray

12:38

DavidLeBoeuf:

Interesting question of "national interest" and how publications represent this.New globalization element complicates scenario #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:38 DavidLeBoeuf

12:39

jonathanstray:

RT @BBCPhilippaT: Is a news organisation based in the US there to serve American interests? asks @jonathanstray provocatively. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:39 jonathanstray

12:40

jonathanderson:

RT @NiemanReports: RT @BBCPhilippaT: Within the hour, Bill Keller exec ed of #NYT will ask Does Wikileaks Change Anything? #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:40 jonathanderson

12:40

Jonathan Seitz:

MM: On local reporting: we never got Governor's wishlist to Washington. Could have shown what money was being requested

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:40 Jonathan Seitz

12:40

jonathanstray:

RT @BBCPhilippaT: Within the hour, Bill Keller exec ed of #NYT will ask Does Wikileaks Change Anything? #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:40 jonathanstray

12:41

BBCPhilippaT:

If #Wikileaks is the worlds 1st stateless media org, surely it won't be the last. Who'll be next to change the media landscape? #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:41 BBCPhilippaT

12:41

Jonathan Seitz:

Ludtke: Journalists don't have to feel like they can't go to the government and ask about information. Press has a right to publish what they want to publish.

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:41 Jonathan Seitz

12:41

jonathanstray:

RT @DavidLeBoeuf: Pincus says newspaper survival depends more on local reporting than national stories #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:41 jonathanstray

12:42

mediatwit:

RT @gregoryfoster: Harvard #Secrecy & #Journalism Conference live streaming via RealPlayer: http://bit.ly/hHkTgD #NiemanLeaks #WikiLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:42 mediatwit

12:42

gregoryfoster:

@thejoedee I removed my initial comment on Harvard's usage of RealPlayer: (ugh) /cc @NiemanReports #NiemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:42 gregoryfoster

12:42

Jonathan Seitz:

Q: Does patriotism have role in journalism?

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:42 Jonathan Seitz

12:43

BBCPhilippaT:

Does patriotism has any place in journalism at all? We're asked at #niemanleaks conference. Many heads shaking. [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:43 BBCPhilippaT

12:43

jonathanstray:

Audience Q: does patriotism have any place in journalism ethics? What does that mean on a global scale? Lots of hands up now! #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:43 jonathanstray

12:43

Jonathan Seitz:

MM: Different kinds of patriots. Ultimately responsibility is to the truth.

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:43 Jonathan Seitz

12:43

sdavy:

RT @gregoryfoster: Harvard #Secrecy & #Journalism Conference live streaming via RealPlayer: http://bit.ly/hHkTgD #NiemanLeaks #WikiLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:43 sdavy

12:43

Jonathan Seitz:

WP: Free speech is what makes this country great. People can get up and do whatever they want.

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:43 Jonathan Seitz

12:43

BBCPhilippaT:

Does patriotism have any place in journalism at all? we're asked at #niemanleaks conference. Many heads shaking. [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:43 BBCPhilippaT

12:44

lalorek:

"It's not the 1st amendment, it's free speech," said W. Pincus - that's what makes America great. #Niemanleaks "You've got to live with it." [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:44 lalorek

12:45

Jonathan Seitz:

DB: Baggage handlers came to POGO to discuss massive problem with bomb detectors. So many false positives, that they were simply shut off.

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:45 Jonathan Seitz

12:45

jonathanstray:

@daniellebrian: important to make the distinction between "what the govt wants" and the national interest. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:45 jonathanstray

12:45

jonathanstray:

RT @BBCPhilippaT: If #Wikileaks is the worlds 1st stateless media org, surely it won't be the last. Who'll be next to change the media landscape? #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:45 jonathanstray

12:46

Jonathan Seitz:

DB: story was true. But there wasn't any technology out there that could accomodate needs, so they didn't publish it just to scare people.

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:46 Jonathan Seitz

12:46

Jonathan Seitz:

CH: argument: transparency could speed up the process of finding stronger bomb detectors.

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:46 Jonathan Seitz

12:47

Jonathan Seitz:

CH: e.g. US govt asked WaPo to keep names of countries hosting black sites out of stories to prevent them from becoming victims. But what about the people in those countries.

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:47 Jonathan Seitz

12:48

Jonathan Seitz:

Q: Could be more orgs besides Wikileaks this time next year. Are you terrified, or excited?

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:48 Jonathan Seitz

12:48

Jonathan Seitz:

DB: WikiLeaks has evolved and now instituted filters. "Wikleaks is no longer WikiLeaks"

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:48 Jonathan Seitz

12:48

Jonathan Seitz:

MM: What I like about WikiLeaks is that it has young people talking

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:48 Jonathan Seitz

12:49

jonathanstray:

Hendler: WaPo withheld names of countries with overseas terror detentions when govt asked. What if I was a citizen there? #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:49 jonathanstray

12:49

Jonathan Seitz:

Q for MM: Public investigative initiatives: What's the financial state? Is there enough money?

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:49 Jonathan Seitz

12:49

jonathanstray:

RT @DavidLeBoeuf: Diverging views coming from the panel on how to determine if news will "scare public" or "force a solution" #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:49 jonathanstray

12:49

Jonathan Seitz:

MM: Knight gave us $400,000 to find out a sustainability program

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:49 Jonathan Seitz

12:50

Jonathan Seitz:

MM: Would love to be in ProPublica's shoes, but we're local Boston reporters

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:50 Jonathan Seitz

12:50

DavidLeBoeuf:

WikiLeaks has got young people talking about freedom of information. Certainly got people talking at @Harvard and @thecrimson #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:50 DavidLeBoeuf

12:50

BBCPhilippaT:

What I like about #wikileaks is that it's got the kids talking says Maggie Mulvihill - debating govt secrecy & accountability. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:50 BBCPhilippaT

12:50

Jonathan Seitz:

MM: I think this non profit model is going to stick around

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:50 Jonathan Seitz

12:51

Rabail26:

Courts reporting will probably never be this cool again RT @jimsciuttoABC About 100 journalists waiting for Assange outside court #Wikileaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:51 Rabail26

12:51

Jonathan Seitz:

MM: "I'm a reporter ... but I don't know the first thing about asking somebody for a $1 million check, But I'm learning"

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:51 Jonathan Seitz

12:51

Jonathan Seitz:

Q: Are there any lines? If we're in favor of transparency, should all govt docs be available to us? How do you make that decision?

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:51 Jonathan Seitz

12:51

NiemanReports:

Maggie Mulvihill: Nonprofit journo has exploded recently. It's part of the solution but we need $. #niemanLeaks http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:51 NiemanReports

12:52

BBCPhilippaT:

RT@DavidLeBoeuf: WikiLeaks has got young people talking freedom of info. Certainly got people talking at @Harvard @thecrimson #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:52 BBCPhilippaT

12:52

DavidLeBoeuf:

Live tweets from the Secrecy and Journal Conference via @thecrimson reporters #niemanLeaks. [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:52 DavidLeBoeuf

12:52

Jonathan Seitz:

MM: Should be lines because you can hurt people. Just received heavily redacted documents about sexual assaults on campuses

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:52 Jonathan Seitz

12:52

Jonathan Seitz:

MM THose names shouldn't be public.

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:52 Jonathan Seitz

12:53

francesca_tweet:

RT @gregoryfoster: Harvard #Secrecy & #Journalism Conference live streaming via RealPlayer: http://bit.ly/hHkTgD #NiemanLeaks #WikiLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:53 francesca_tweet

12:53

Jonathan Seitz:

CH: Every time you're going to have to make a new call about publishing. Unfortunately, the government usually decides what is and isn't public.

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:53 Jonathan Seitz

12:53

Jonathan Seitz:

CH Wikileaks does show that nayone could be a publisher and have no accountability.

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:53 Jonathan Seitz

12:53

jonathanstray:

Q: how to decide what's public? Hendler: govt has a way to decide, the classification system. Problem is it's terrible. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:53 jonathanstray

12:53

Jonathan Seitz:

With that, the panel closes.

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:53 Jonathan Seitz

12:53

DavidLeBoeuf:

Should everything be public? Looks like panel is invoking no harm principle and professional discretion #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:53 DavidLeBoeuf

12:54

Jonathan Seitz:

Next will be Bill Keller's Keynote address at 1:15

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:54 Jonathan Seitz

12:54

Jonathan Seitz:

Follow along on the liveblog at http://www.nieman.harvard.edu/Microsites/SecrecyAndJournalismInTheNewMediaAge/MultimediaCoverage/KEYNOTEII.aspx

Thursday December 16, 2010 12:54 Jonathan Seitz

12:54