Secrecy and Journalism in the New Media Age | Multimedia Coverage

2:36

cafbear:

RT @HirokoTabuchi To find out how NYT got access to WikiLeaks docs, see #niemanleaks @NiemanLab event with NYT exec editor Bill Keller [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:36 cafbear

2:37

Jonathan Seitz:

Welcome back to the Nieman Foundation's conference on Secrecy and Journalism

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:37 Jonathan Seitz

2:38

PDColford:

RT @NiemanReports: @AP exec ed Kathleen Carroll's talk at #niemanLeaks conf on FOI in digital age; video posted: http://bit.ly/f69SSG [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:38 PDColford

2:38

Jonathan Seitz:

We're waiting for the day's final panel to begin. The topic will be "Secrets 2.0: Exploring Entrepreneurial Answers to Jorunalistic Obligations"

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:38 Jonathan Seitz

2:39

Jonathan Seitz:

Speakers on this panel will be Teru Kuwayama (TK), Bill Allison (BA), Aron Pilhofer (AP), David Kaplan (DK), and John Bohannon (JB)

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:39 Jonathan Seitz

2:40

Jonathan Seitz:

For full speaker bios, see our conference webpage at http://www.nieman.harvard.edu/Microsites/SecrecyAndJournalismInTheNewMediaAge/Speakers.aspx

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:40 Jonathan Seitz

2:40

niemanstory:

Last conference panel livestreaming now: Secrets 2.0: Entrepreneurial Answers to Journalistic Obligations http://bit.ly/enZaB2. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:40 niemanstory

2:41

The_CopyEditor:

Secrets 2.0: Entrepreneurial Answers to Journalistic Obligations http://bit.ly/enZaB2. #niemanleaks /via @niemanstory [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:41 The_CopyEditor

2:41

Jonathan Seitz:

This panel will be moderated by Megan Garber of the Nieman Journalism Lab, with technical assistance provided by Hope Reese of the Nieman Foudation

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:41 Jonathan Seitz

2:41

Jonathan Seitz:

Live video is available at http://www.nieman.harvard.edu/Microsites/SecrecyAndJournalismInTheNewMediaAge/MultimediaCoverage.aspx

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:41 Jonathan Seitz

2:42

kellykwlam:

Megan Garber of Nieman Journalism Lab introduces last panel "Future of Transparency" #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:42 kellykwlam

2:43

gregoryfoster:

#Assange's lawyer, Mark Stephens, is on Twitter [ @MarksLarks ]. (HT @eacion) #WikiLeaks #cablegate #NiemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:43 gregoryfoster

2:43

BBCPhilippaT:

Hearing from @megangarber of @niemanlab great energetic intro to final #niemanleaks sesson [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:43 BBCPhilippaT

2:43

AlejoManrique:

RT @NiemanLab: What's popular on Twitter now? A "newsroom cafe," Guardian's data site and a certain #Niemanleaks conference http://nie.m ... [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:43 AlejoManrique

2:44

clinthendler:

Sniff. @CJR knew her when... T @kellykwlam @megangarber of Nieman Journalism Lab introduces last panel "Future of Transparency" #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:44 clinthendler

2:45

Harvard:

In a digital age, how do we balance security & free press? Watch WikiLeaks talk live http://bit.ly/fS5l9c #niemanleaks #wikileaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:45 Harvard

2:45

BBCPhilippaT:

We are back at #niemanleaks exploring the future of transparency with Bill Allison of Sunlight Foundation, Teru Kuwayama of Basetrack [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:45 BBCPhilippaT

2:45

KTKING:

RT @BBCPhilippaT: Global journalists can use America's Freedom of Information act to dig in their own back yards - egs from Cambodia and Romania #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:45 KTKING

2:46

schroep:

RT @Harvard: In a digital age, how do we balance security & free press? Watch WikiLeaks talk live http://bit.ly/fS5l9c #niemanleaks #wik ... [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:46 schroep

2:46

BBCPhilippaT:

Also at #niemanleaks now, David Kaplan from ICIJ Investigative Journalism, Aron Pilhofer of documentcloud, & John Bohannon of Science mag. [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:46 BBCPhilippaT

2:47

dayobig:

RT @harvard: In a digital age, how do we balance security & free press? Watch WikiLeaks talk live http://bit.ly/fS5l9c #niemanleaks #wikilea [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:47 dayobig

2:48

kellykwlam:

Teru Kuwayama, photojournalist and founder of Basetrack first up #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:48 kellykwlam

2:49

kellykwlam:

Basetrack is built on WordPress #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:49 kellykwlam

2:49

Jonathan Seitz:

First speaker will be Teru Kuwayama, founder of http://lightstalkers,org and http://bastrack.org

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:49 Jonathan Seitz

2:49

Jonathan Seitz:

main focus will be basetrack today.

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:49 Jonathan Seitz

2:50

BBCPhilippaT:

Teru Kuwayama explaining Basetrack, his open source & social media system, tracking a battalion of marines in Afghanistan. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:50 BBCPhilippaT

2:50

Jonathan Seitz:

TK has team or reporters who follow a battalion of marines (roughly 1000 marines) chronicling their deployment from start to finish

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:50 Jonathan Seitz

2:50

kellykwlam:

Kuwayama following 1000 marines in Afghanistan #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:50 kellykwlam

2:50

Jonathan Seitz:

TK: website has news reporting and aggregation

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:50 Jonathan Seitz

2:50

JLokerse:

RT @Harvard: In a digital age, how do we balance security & free press? Watch WikiLeaks talk live http://bit.ly/fS5l9c #niemanleaks #wik ... [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:50 JLokerse

2:50

kellykwlam:

Basetrack sweeps feed from regional sources #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:50 kellykwlam

2:50

Jonathan Seitz:

TK: when we talked to marines about where they got their news, ost said Fox News

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:50 Jonathan Seitz

2:51

Jonathan Seitz:

Basetrack newsfeed includes local news sources as well

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:51 Jonathan Seitz

2:51

Jonathan Seitz:

TK: Basetrack is using facebook to communicate. Mostly small audience of marine families, esp. wives and mothers.

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:51 Jonathan Seitz

2:51

kellykwlam:

"We're using Facebook as a way of interfacing with the audience, primarily the immediate families of these marines."#niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:51 kellykwlam

2:51

NiemanReports:

Teru Kuwayama, founder of Basetrack, following a battalion of Marines in Afghanistan, speaking at #niemanLeaks conf http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:51 NiemanReports

2:52

Jonathan Seitz:

"It's an experiment ... what is the social graph of a 1000 marines?"

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:52 Jonathan Seitz

2:53

riparian:

basetrack.org founder Teru Kuwayama is showing his experimental site, which tracks a U.S. battalion in Afghanistan. #Niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:53 riparian

2:53

Jonathan Seitz:

TK: Early on, the command of the battalion was concerned that they might release information that would compromise security.

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:53 Jonathan Seitz

2:53

AdamHasArk:

RT @Harvard: In a digital age, how do we balance security & free press? Watch WikiLeaks talk live http://bit.ly/fS5l9c #niemanleaks #wik ... [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:53 AdamHasArk

2:54

Jonathan Seitz:

TK: started letting command see the pictures going out. Most problems they had were image (ex. mustache not trimmed righ) , not with operation security

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:54 Jonathan Seitz

2:54

Jonathan Seitz:

TK: Military response: Anything that causes us any stress impares our operations security

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:54 Jonathan Seitz

2:54

Jonathan Seitz:

TK: whole thing comes down to "denial of information"

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:54 Jonathan Seitz

2:54

kellykwlam:

There was concern that marines' operational security might be compromised, so Kuwayama let them see photos before publishing #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:54 kellykwlam

2:56

riparian:

basetrack built a 'denial of information' tool to let soldiers filter what they prefer. #Niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:56 riparian

2:56

kellykwlam:

See Basetrack on facebook http://www.facebook.com/basetrack #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:56 kellykwlam

2:56

Jonathan Seitz:

TK: How it works: Post is made with videos and text. Goes into redactions system, where military censor gets free hand to block out anything they like. Anything can be blocked but prompt appears asking reason for redaction

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:56 Jonathan Seitz

2:57

Jonathan Seitz:

Text and photos can be blocked partially, but video and audio is an on/off switch

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:57 Jonathan Seitz

2:58

Jonathan Seitz:

When the post is read, mouseover text gives the reasons for the redactions.

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:58 Jonathan Seitz

2:58

BBCPhilippaT:

Fascinating stuff as Basetrack shows how they let mil auths censor with online technology to block parts of text / photos. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:58 BBCPhilippaT

2:58

Jonathan Seitz:

TK: "the ball is in their court now. We've given them all the options they could want."

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:58 Jonathan Seitz

2:59

BBCPhilippaT:

But key for Basetrack is that every move to censor will trigger a pop-up box where you have to note why you made the cut. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:59 BBCPhilippaT

2:59

kellykwlam:

Basetrack has a tool called "denial of information" that lets marines redact sensitive information before they get published #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:59 kellykwlam

2:59

pedroelrey:

RT @Harvard: In a digital age, how do we balance security & free press? Watch WikiLeaks talk live http://bit.ly/fS5l9c #niemanleaks #wik ... [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:59 pedroelrey

2:59

Jonathan Seitz:

TK: it's been two weeks,and nothing has moved. I don't know if it's the act of having to justify redactions.

Thursday December 16, 2010 2:59 Jonathan Seitz

3:01

kellykwlam:

Redacted information can be released with this tool once it is no longer time sensitive #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:01 kellykwlam

3:01

Jonathan Seitz:

Replying to Q, TK says that information redacted by censors can be brought back. Ex. if the issue was the location of marines, it's no longer an issue once they move, Also, could be made publc after the batallion returns

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:01 Jonathan Seitz

3:02

Jonathan Seitz:

Next up is Bill Allison, editorial director of the Sunlight Foundation

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:02 Jonathan Seitz

3:03

BBCPhilippaT:

dir of Sunlight Foundation Bill Allison on mission to get data to citizens now at #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:03 BBCPhilippaT

3:03

Jonathan Seitz:

BA: Sunlight is a transparency orgnanization, but not like wikileaks

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:03 Jonathan Seitz

3:03

Jonathan Seitz:

major project, collecting earmarkes, e.g., "Bridge to Nowhere" in Alaska

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:03 Jonathan Seitz

3:03

kellykwlam:

A pop-up box will come up with any attempt at redacting information, asking for a specific explanation #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:03 kellykwlam

3:03

Jonathan Seitz:

Also used earmark data as part of a google map

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:03 Jonathan Seitz

3:03

kellykwlam:

Bill Allison, ed of Sunlight Foundation now speaks #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:03 kellykwlam

3:03

NiemanReports:

Bill Allison of Sunlight Foundation: One of our early projects was releasing info on gov't earmarks. #niemanLeaks http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:03 NiemanReports

3:04

Jonathan Seitz:

Created congressman profiles with the data as well

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:04 Jonathan Seitz

3:05

Jonathan Seitz:

BA: We try to make the information easy to use on the web

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:05 Jonathan Seitz

3:05

Jonathan Seitz:

BA: like 100 different papers around the country used it in the runup to the election

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:05 Jonathan Seitz

3:06

Jonathan Seitz:

Also put recovery.gov data into an app

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:06 Jonathan Seitz

3:06

kellykwlam:

Contexualized information: Sunlight visually maps out government data, down to specific locations within states #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:06 kellykwlam

3:06

Jonathan Seitz:

Another app lets you see where DC fundraisers are taking place

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:06 Jonathan Seitz

3:06

kellykwlam:

"Party Time", an iPhone app made by Sunlight, informs users of fundraising events #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:06 kellykwlam

3:07

Jonathan Seitz:

BA: Open Government directive from the Obama admin, but they haven't seen much data yet.

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:07 Jonathan Seitz

3:07

BBCPhilippaT:

See Sunlightfoundation.com for Congressional earmarks, pol influence data, even where the fundraising parties are! #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:07 BBCPhilippaT

3:07

NiemanReports:

Sunlight Foundation's Party Time http://bit.ly/fyucQQ tells you about gov't fundraisers. #niemanLeaks http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:07 NiemanReports

3:07

Jonathan Seitz:

BA: received funding form Knight, started on an app called "Bran Muffins" to bring data tofether

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:07 Jonathan Seitz

3:07

riparian:

Bill Allison shows some of Sunlight Foundation's apps on government data/lobbying. http://sunlightfoundation.com/projects/ #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:07 riparian

3:08

kellykwlam:

"Everything our technology team does is named after wheat products." e.g. Bran Muffin #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:08 kellykwlam

3:08

Jonathan Seitz:

BA: Aside: all of the data projects are named after meat products, so the editorial projects are named after baked goods

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:08 Jonathan Seitz

3:09

BBCPhilippaT:

Sunlightfoundation goes beyond politics, has great apps to compare health data, hospital rankings etc. Power to the people! #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:09 BBCPhilippaT

3:10

kellykwlam:

Allison says to check out ResDAC for medical data http://www.resdac.org/ #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:10 kellykwlam

3:11

Jonathan Seitz:

BA: WSJ used ResDAC data to analyze medicare data and find doctor who was likely committing fraud, BUT, they couldn't publish the name of the doctor per agreement with ResDAC

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:11 Jonathan Seitz

3:11

mabelgasca:

From Watergate to #WikiLeaks: Secrecy and Journalism in the New Media Age. Live - streamed #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:11 mabelgasca

3:12

Jonathan Seitz:

BA: Can bring data together, e.g., effectiveness of prescription drugs compared with their prices and doctor payments

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:12 Jonathan Seitz

3:12

SmythFrank:

RT @NiemanReports: NYT's Keller: Assange cut NYT off after 1st 2 rounds, didn't like front-page NYT profile of him, & more #niemanLeaks ... [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:12 SmythFrank

3:12

Jonathan Seitz:

BA: very hard to use medical data without violating patient privacy.

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:12 Jonathan Seitz

3:13

Jonathan Seitz:

BA: At one point, gov published social security numbers online with a data set. Sunlight contacted them to get it brought down.

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:13 Jonathan Seitz

3:13

Jonathan Seitz:

Allison is done, and Aron Pilhofer is now up

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:13 Jonathan Seitz

3:14

Jonathan Seitz:

Pilhofer is editor of interactive news for the NEw York Times and co-foudner of DocumentCloud

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:14 Jonathan Seitz

3:14

Jonathan Seitz:

AP: DocumentCloud, funded by Knight, is free site for journalists to share, analyze, and eventually publish documents

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:14 Jonathan Seitz

3:15

Jonathan Seitz:

AP: replaces yellow legal pads and highlighters

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:15 Jonathan Seitz

3:15

Jonathan Seitz:

AP: DocumentCloud has it's own reader software. Runs Optical Character Recognition as well.

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:15 Jonathan Seitz

3:16

BBCPhilippaT:

Aron Pilhofer telling #niemanleaks abt documentcloud prog which lets reporters mark up docs online. Niemans (cont) http://tl.gd/7hh5eo [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:16 BBCPhilippaT

3:16

Jonathan Seitz:

AP:also uses OpenCalay to pull out names of people and organizations

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:16 Jonathan Seitz

3:16

Jonathan Seitz:

Correx: OpenCalais is the name of the softwar

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:16 Jonathan Seitz

3:17

Jonathan Seitz:

AP: Is it perfect? no, but it's still an improvement over past technology

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:17 Jonathan Seitz

3:17

gregoryfoster:

The NYT's @pilhofer is currently dropping the Document Cloud science on the #NiemanLeaks crowd: http://bit.ly/hHkTgD [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:17 gregoryfoster

3:18

Jonathan Seitz:

AP: DocumentCloud is hosted on Amazon.com's server, as was WikiLeaks

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:18 Jonathan Seitz

3:18

kellykwlam:

DocumentCloud: free online program for journalists doing document-based reporting and editing #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:18 kellykwlam

3:19

Jonathan Seitz:

AP: Amazon said that WikiLeaks violated Terms of Service--part that says poster is the owner of the documents

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:19 Jonathan Seitz

3:19

futureJproject:

mp3 of NYT exec editor Bill Keller on secrecy and journalism via todays's @niemanlab event. - http://tumblr.com/xc312oqd93 #Niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:19 futureJproject

3:19

Jonathan Seitz:

AP: How many reporters can make that claim about documents that they receive?

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:19 Jonathan Seitz

3:19

Jonathan Seitz:

AP: Wikileaks is sort of like Napster, because it's a central server

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:19 Jonathan Seitz

3:20

kellykwlam:

Napster was kind of the WikiLeaks of music-sharing, Aron Pilhofer of @nytimes says #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:20 kellykwlam

3:20

BBCPhilippaT:

Aron Pilhofer of NYT Tech on #wikileaks : it's like Napster was to music. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:20 BBCPhilippaT

3:20

Jonathan Seitz:

AP: After Napster, other decentralized groups emerged, and were harder to take down. Then BitTorrent, which makes every user a node for downloading.

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:20 Jonathan Seitz

3:20

jonathanstray:

@pilhofer on Amazon's denial of Wikileaks under their TOS: you must own all rights to documents. Journos typically don't. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:20 jonathanstray

3:21

riparian:

pilhofer, @documentcloud, says #wikileaks is like Napster. Next: a bittorrent to share documents. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:21 riparian

3:21

Jonathan Seitz:

AP From a technology standpoint, BitTorrent is the future. "I don't really see an iTunes for leaked documents cropping up any time soon."

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:21 Jonathan Seitz

3:21

Jonathan Seitz:

Pilhofer is done, and David Kaplan's making his way forward

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:21 Jonathan Seitz

3:22

kellykwlam:

David Kaplan of ICIJ now up #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:22 kellykwlam

3:22

Jonathan Seitz:

Kapla is Director of international Consortium of Invesitgative Journalists

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:22 Jonathan Seitz

3:22

BBCPhilippaT:

NYT Aron Pilhofer says from a tech POV, the future is BitTorrent it's not #wikileaks, just as it was BitTorrent not Napster. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:22 BBCPhilippaT

3:23

Jonathan Seitz:

To read about some of the ICIJ's work, see the Fall issue of Nieman Reports http://www.nieman.harvard.edu/reports/article/102462/Global-Investigative-Reporting-Effort-Exposes-Asbestos-Trade.aspx

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:23 Jonathan Seitz

3:23

jonathanstray:

@pilhofer: DocumentCloud is on Amazon. Can they cut DocCloud off too, if journos put up source docs that someone doesn't like? #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:23 jonathanstray

3:23

JustinNXT:

.@pilhofer says WikiLeaks is the Napster of leaked documents. The future, much like music/file sharing, is bit torrent. #Niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:23 JustinNXT

3:24

Jonathan Seitz:

DK: Much of the conversation has focused on government, but what about private corporations?

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:24 Jonathan Seitz

3:25

BBCPhilippaT:

David Kaplan of International Consortium of Investigative Journalists : let's get beyond govt, what about corporations? #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:25 BBCPhilippaT

3:25

Jonathan Seitz:

DK: Our facebook page is one of the largest social networking communities on investigative journalism

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:25 Jonathan Seitz

3:25

gregoryfoster:

NYT's @pilhofer says #WikiLeaks' centralized tech is akin to Napster; predicts a P2P BitTorrent model. #NiemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:25 gregoryfoster

3:26

Jonathan Seitz:

DK: Estimates of $1-3 trillion laundered every year

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:26 Jonathan Seitz

3:26

Jonathan Seitz:

DK:vAbout two-thirds of Africa's entire economy is off the books

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:26 Jonathan Seitz

3:26

Jonathan Seitz:

DK: Who's following the trails? There's a global lack of accountability

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:26 Jonathan Seitz

3:27

BBCPhilippaT:

RT@jonathanstray:DocumentCloud is on Amazon. Can they cut DocCloud off too, if journos put up source docs someone doesn't like? #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:27 BBCPhilippaT

3:27

NiemanReports:

David Kaplan, now speaking at #niemanLeaks conf, directs ICIJ which focuses on biz inves kleptocrats etc. http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:27 NiemanReports

3:27

Jonathan Seitz:

DK: One of Great Ironies: at a time of unrprecedented information overload, we're losing our eyes and ears around the world. US Newsrooms have lost 20,000 jobs in last few years

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:27 Jonathan Seitz

3:28

kellykwlam:

@pilhofer predicts BitTorrent as future of file sharing #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:28 kellykwlam

3:28

Jonathan Seitz:

foreign and investigative bureaus were first to go

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:28 Jonathan Seitz

3:28

Jonathan Seitz:

DK: Overseas, journalists face a whole host of different problems, including time change, safety, language, etc.

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:28 Jonathan Seitz

3:28

riparian:

"bloggers and citizen journalists can't make up for the loss of a generation of investigative reporters." David Kaplan, ICIJ #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:28 riparian

3:29

Jonathan Seitz:

DK: ICIJ has staff of 7 in DC, 100 or so invitation only members

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:29 Jonathan Seitz

3:29

Jonathan Seitz:

SK: Early investigations included tobacco smuggling, and the emergence of halliburton.

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:29 Jonathan Seitz

3:30

Jonathan Seitz:

[Should have been DK on that last one]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:30 Jonathan Seitz

3:30

bMunch:

very interesting RT @futureJproject: mp3 of NYT exec editor Bill Keller on secrecy and journalism. - http://bit.ly/ffiLcO #Niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:30 bMunch

3:31

Jonathan Seitz:

DK: Many other investigative groups around the world, and we work together

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:31 Jonathan Seitz

3:31

BBCPhilippaT:

Hearing how ICIJ investigations run from the black market in blue-fin tuna to the use of asbestos in developing nations. Kaplan #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:31 BBCPhilippaT

3:31

Jonathan Seitz:

DK: Reporters link together through e-mail, cell phones, other modern tech

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:31 Jonathan Seitz

3:32

kellykwlam:

Kaplan: "You gotta get out and do the reporting" #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:32 kellykwlam

3:32

Jonathan Seitz:

"DK What I want ot leave this group with, is that nonw of this replaces good old-fashioned reporting ... .Yoiu've gotta get out and do the reporting."

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:32 Jonathan Seitz

3:32

Jonathan Seitz:

DK It took us weeks even to know what questions to ask on the bluefin tuna story

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:32 Jonathan Seitz

3:33

BBCPhilippaT:

ICIJ's David Kaplan "we love all the new technology!" BUT "none of this replaces good old fashioned reporting." #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:33 BBCPhilippaT

3:33

Jonathan Seitz:

DK WE checked court records all over the world. Interviewed fisherman and merchants

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:33 Jonathan Seitz

3:33

Jonathan Seitz:

"Wikileaks is essentially leak journalism on steroids"

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:33 Jonathan Seitz

3:34

Jonathan Seitz:

DK "IF you look up the word investigation, it means systematic inquiry"

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:34 Jonathan Seitz

3:34

kellykwlam:

"WikiLeaks is essentially leak journalism on steroids" Kaplan #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:34 kellykwlam

3:34

BBCPhilippaT:

#wikileaks is leak journalism on steroids. It's not investigative journalism. So says David Kaplan of ICIJ at #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:34 BBCPhilippaT

3:35

Jonathan Seitz:

AP is done, and John Bohannon is up to the mic

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:35 Jonathan Seitz

3:35

Jonathan Seitz:

Bohannon is a contributing correpsondent ot Science Magazine

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:35 Jonathan Seitz

3:35

kellykwlam:

Kaplan ends with call for more investigative journalism instead of "bloggers", "citizen reporters" and leak journalism #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:35 kellykwlam

3:35

NiemanReports:

David Kaplan of ICIJ ends talk at #niemanLeaks: WikiLeaks isn't investigative journalism. [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:35 NiemanReports

3:35

acavelier:

@dianaeme Assange did not like a profile the Times wrote about him weeks ago, among other things [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:35 acavelier

3:35

kevglobal:

RT @BBCPhilippaT: Keller on Assange. "He's not the kind of journalist I am." But an espionage case wd "send up alarm signals to me". #wikileaks #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:35 kevglobal

3:35

billiegirltoo:

RT @BBCPhilippaT: Why did #wikileaks drop the NYT access? Keller says he refused to link to their data base, which cd reveal innocent Afghans. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:35 billiegirltoo

3:36

Jonathan Seitz:

JB: People have been saying that wikileaks makes it safer for leakers -- but there are huge changes afoot in how the US Gov't handles data

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:36 Jonathan Seitz

3:36

Jonathan Seitz:

JB The more information you pull off a govt computer, the easier it is to tell who took them

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:36 Jonathan Seitz

3:37

BBCPhilippaT:

does #wikileaks make it easier to leak? Perhaps not for long. John Bohannon of Science mag : govts will now turn to encryption #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:37 BBCPhilippaT

3:37

Jonathan Seitz:

JB: essentially everything that changes hands within the govts computer system dcould be time and place stamped ... and there's nothing you could do about it

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:37 Jonathan Seitz

3:37

gregoryfoster:

MT @JPBarlow: My debate with John Negroponte @OnPoint this morning: http://j.mp/i17SQc #WikiLeaks #NiemanLeaks #cablegate [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:37 gregoryfoster

3:37

Jonathan Seitz:

Note: JB is talking about the direction stenographical encryption is taking for the government.

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:37 Jonathan Seitz

3:37

djfom:

RT @NiemanReports: David Kaplan of ICIJ ends talk at #niemanLeaks: WikiLeaks isn't investigative journalism. [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:37 djfom

3:38

acavelier:

RT @BBCPhilippaT: #wikileaks is leak journalism on steroids. It's not investigative journalism. So says David Kaplan of ICIJ at #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:38 acavelier

3:38

Jonathan Seitz:

JB I was trained as a scientist, then became a journalist

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:38 Jonathan Seitz

3:38

pcorral:

RT @BBCPhilippaT: #wikileaks is leak journalism on steroids. It's not investigative journalism. So says David Kaplan of ICIJ at #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:38 pcorral

3:38

kellykwlam:

"Best kind of investigative journalism is like best kind of science" Kaplan #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:38 kellykwlam

3:39

Jonathan Seitz:

JB: best kind of journalism is like the best kind of science. you share the investigation along the way and see if they agree with you.

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:39 Jonathan Seitz

3:39

NiemanReports:

John Bohannon at #niemanLeaks conf warns that soon tech will make it impossible to keep leak sources private http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:39 NiemanReports

3:39

acavelier:

RT @kellykwlam: @pilhofer predicts BitTorrent as future of file sharing #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:39 acavelier

3:39

riparian:

John Bohannon of Science predicts encryption will gut #wikileaks. I wonder. Encryption always fails to become popular. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:39 riparian

3:40

Jonathan Seitz:

JB was embedded in Afghanistan in October - NATO forces were very forthcomin. "Sometimes is you politely ask for information, large powerful organizations will sometimes give it to you."

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:40 Jonathan Seitz

3:40

Jonathan Seitz:

JB: Went there as embedded data jorunalists - interested in question of how many people are dying in various wars.

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:40 Jonathan Seitz

3:40

sarahnordgren:

RT @Nieman: John Bohannon at #niemanLeaks conf warns tech will soon make it impossible to keep leak sources private http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:40 sarahnordgren

3:41

kellykwlam:

"Sometimes if you politely ask for information, large, powerful organizations will give it to you" Kaplan on encounter with ISAF#niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:41 kellykwlam

3:41

kellykwlam:

"Sometimes if you politely ask for information, largepowerful organizations will give it to you" Kaplan on encounter with ISAF# niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:41 kellykwlam

3:41

Jonathan Seitz:

JB: Question in Iraq: researchers said 600,000 deaths since the start of conflict. Heard about it on This American Life

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:41 Jonathan Seitz

3:41

kellykwlam:

"Sometimes if you politely ask for information, large powerful organizations will give it to you" Kaplan on encounter with ISAF #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:41 kellykwlam

3:42

jonathanstray:

@riparian but this time the govt will use it. and it's not encryption. it's steganography (hidden messages, revealing source) #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:42 jonathanstray

3:43

Jonathan Seitz:

JB: 'When reality has an answer, you can use science to find it"

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:43 Jonathan Seitz

3:43

Jonathan Seitz:

JB after looking into study, found that 600,000 figure is way off, and one researcher was banned from human study

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:43 Jonathan Seitz

3:43

BBCPhilippaT:

Glad you explained it! RT@jonathanstray .. it's not encryption. it's steganography (hidden messages, revealing source) #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:43 BBCPhilippaT

3:44

jonathanstray:

I would expect stenographic systems for secure systems worldwide to be under discussion. This will make source anonymity hard. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:44 jonathanstray

3:44

BBCPhilippaT:

Wow! John Bohannon of Science mag: docs in the future will be "imprinted" so govts will KNOW whose fingerprints are on them. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:44 BBCPhilippaT

3:44

BBCPhilippaT:

RT @jonathanstray: John Bohannon of Science magazine points out: stenography can be used to trace leaks. Can embed info on login, geocode.. oh wow #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:44 BBCPhilippaT

3:45

Jonathan Seitz:

JB by surveying country, you ca find the number of "excess deaths," those above and beyond the number who would have died if the military had never invaded.

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:45 Jonathan Seitz

3:45

Jonathan Seitz:

JB there is no systematic body count protocol, until now

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:45 Jonathan Seitz

3:45

kellykwlam:

RT @jonathanstray: John Bohannon of Science magazine points out: stenography can be used to trace leaks. Can embed info on login, geocod ... [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:45 kellykwlam

3:47

Jonathan Seitz:

JB: asked for civilian casualty data, and the government said yes.

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:47 Jonathan Seitz

3:48

Jonathan Seitz:

JB: "I have nothign but praise for the public affairs office in Kabul and Kandahar ... They're a journalists best friend over there.

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:48 Jonathan Seitz

3:48

jonathanstray:

John Bohannon knows more about civilian casualties in Afghanistan than anyone I've ever talked to. He went there and researched #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:48 jonathanstray

3:48

BBCPhilippaT:

Heading to the school gate but thanks to #niemanleaks organisers for such a lot of insight in one space in one day! [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:48 BBCPhilippaT

3:49

BBCPhilippaT:

still covering #niemanleaks : @niemanreports @jonathanstray @riparian [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:49 BBCPhilippaT

3:50

kellykwlam:

Bohannon was able to access sensitive data in Afganistan, such as civilian casulties #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:50 kellykwlam

3:50

riparian:

Jonathan bohannon says yay #wikileaks, but sometimes if you just ask politely, people will give you data. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:50 riparian

3:50

jonathanstray:

Bohannon got extensive civilian casualty data just by asking various ISAF offices nicely for it. "so leaks are good, but..." #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:50 jonathanstray

3:51

Jonathan Seitz:

Panelists are coming back to the stage for question period. We have 40 minutes, so we'll again try to work in some reader questions

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:51 Jonathan Seitz

3:52

Jonathan Seitz:

Q: How did you discover that study on Iraq body count was incorrect? (for JB)

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:52 Jonathan Seitz

3:53

Jonathan Seitz:

JB: May have gone too far: The scientific community has widely dismissed that study, and the decisions of which houses to survey was incorrect.

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:53 Jonathan Seitz

3:54

Jonathan Seitz:

Q for AP: Expand more on the Napster/Wikileaks comparison

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:54 Jonathan Seitz

3:55

Jonathan Seitz:

AP: "Distributed is the future" was the point. Already, org called OpenLeaks, started by former WL partner, uses a much more distributed format.

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:55 Jonathan Seitz

3:56

Jonathan Seitz:

AP: We're doing a terrible job protecting whistleblowers. The tech solution to that is a much more distributed format.

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:56 Jonathan Seitz

3:56

MarcusWohlsen:

RT @sarahnordgren: John Bohannon at #niemanLeaks warns tech will soon make it impossible to keep leak sources private http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:56 MarcusWohlsen

3:56

kellykwlam:

Philhofer clarifies that BitTorrent is not in itself the future, but a distributed system is #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:56 kellykwlam

3:57

Jonathan Seitz:

Q for DK: on local investigation and university supports

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:57 Jonathan Seitz

3:58

Jonathan Seitz:

DK: did a survey of orgs, and found that many were reliant on Universities for funding and supports.

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:58 Jonathan Seitz

3:58

Jonathan Seitz:

DK: Just a drop in the bucket, maybe represent 1000 jobs in all the nonprofit centers,

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:58 Jonathan Seitz

3:59

kellykwlam:

More data from anonymous sources? OpenLeaks set to be a competitor of WikiLeaks! #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:59 kellykwlam

3:59

Jonathan Seitz:

Q for BA: stateoftheusa.org - gov't funded site putting everything up on the web for citizens

Thursday December 16, 2010 3:59 Jonathan Seitz

4:00

Harvard:

NYT’s Keller quotes famous “Leaks tend to affect ships that aren’t sea-worthy to begin with.” #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:00 Harvard

4:00

Jonathan Seitz:

BA: Foundation support hasn't quite materialized, but they have good plans.

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:00 Jonathan Seitz

4:01

Jonathan Seitz:

BA: Sunlife isn't looking for a report card of the country, we're looking for much more granular data.

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:01 Jonathan Seitz

4:02

billiondollarD:

RT @Harvard: NYT’s Keller quotes famous “Leaks tend to affect ships that aren’t sea-worthy to begin with.” #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:02 billiondollarD

4:02

Boonk31:

RT @Harvard: NYT’s Keller quotes famous “Leaks tend to affect ships that aren’t sea-worthy to begin with.” #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:02 Boonk31

4:03

Jonathan Seitz:

Q: There are benefits to loss of authorship, but who's going to take responsibility of the final product? Bigger Question: Do we need to be creating so many documents? Especially if we're giving our enemies tools against us

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:03 Jonathan Seitz

4:03

Jonathan Seitz:

JB: I don't think you're ever going to get around the need for documents

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:03 Jonathan Seitz

4:04

Jonathan Seitz:

JB: Top Secret Clearance does not give you access to all documents, only says that you've been checked out and cleared.

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:04 Jonathan Seitz

4:05

Jonathan Seitz:

JB: Classification system works. I don't know how you could function without it

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:05 Jonathan Seitz

4:05

hillaryrosner:

RT @jonathanstray: Keller: as an editor, I find the espionage act a scary thing in the wrong hands. It's an abusable law. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:05 hillaryrosner

4:06

Jonathan Seitz:

Clint Handler: System is not well maintained. Right now, they don't even know how many people have clearance.

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:06 Jonathan Seitz

4:06

hillaryrosner:

RT @BBCPhilippaT: Keller on Assange. "Hes not the kind of journalist I am." But espionage case wd "send up alarm signals to me" #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:06 hillaryrosner

4:07

acavelier:

Online leaking sites are here to stay. New, more distributed sites like www.openleaks.org/ are coming up, says Pilhofer. #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:07 acavelier

4:08

kellykwlam:

Should stories have bylines? Debating individualism of America vs more collaborative efforts in other countries like Germany #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:08 kellykwlam

4:10

kellykwlam:

But even Wikipedia has leaves a trail that enables the govt to track author #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:10 kellykwlam

4:10

Jonathan Seitz:

JB: If you go to a distributed sysytem, it'd be easier to disrupt the system by releasing a dump of false documents

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:10 Jonathan Seitz

4:10

kellykwlam:

But even Wikipedia leaves a trail that enables the govt to track author #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:10 kellykwlam

4:11

shava23:

RT @Harvard: NYT’s Keller quotes famous “Leaks tend to affect ships that aren’t sea-worthy to begin with.” #niemanLeaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:11 shava23

4:11

Jonathan Seitz:

Q: how does the scientific approach to journalism jibe with distributed model?

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:11 Jonathan Seitz

4:12

Jonathan Seitz:

JB: Scientific approach just means that you're giving your sources and showing other people how you arrived at conclusion

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:12 Jonathan Seitz

4:13

Jonathan Seitz:

AP: Debating the goodness of WikiLeaks - it's like debating gravity. It simply is, and that's how it's going to be

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:13 Jonathan Seitz

4:13

kellykwlam:

How journalism and science intersect: no preconceived ideas, citing sources for your claims, search for truth - Bohannon #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:13 kellykwlam

4:14

Jonathan Seitz:

AP: WikiLeaks is a distribution channel. It does some journalistic things, but it's not a news org.

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:14 Jonathan Seitz

4:14

Jonathan Seitz:

Q: What about secrecy of news organizations? Should journalists be obligated to put up their source documents?

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:14 Jonathan Seitz

4:15

Jonathan Seitz:

AP: Generally, it's an issue of omission - Journalists not sharing what they've found

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:15 Jonathan Seitz

4:16

NiemanReports:

Aron Pilhofer of NYT: his side project Document Cloud wants to encourage journos to be more transparent #niemanLeaks http://bit.ly/eYfAcp [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:16 NiemanReports

4:16

Jonathan Seitz:

AP: That's the idea - to get the data and documents out there for others to see. Document Cloud started at the NYT, and surprisingly many reporters are using it

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:16 Jonathan Seitz

4:16

Jonathan Seitz:

AP Also useful for legal protections: showing lawyers what documents exist to back up reporters' claims.

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:16 Jonathan Seitz

4:17

Jonathan Seitz:

AP: "If we can't show our work ... then we're going to sink"

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:17 Jonathan Seitz

4:18

Jonathan Seitz:

Q for TK: How large is the audience to basetrack, and what do you hope the result of the experiment will be?

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:18 Jonathan Seitz

4:18

Jonathan Seitz:

TK: During Midterm elections, only 3% said AFghanistan was a top priority, 73% said it wasn't at all

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:18 Jonathan Seitz

4:18

Jonathan Seitz:

TK: Core audience for this one project is about 2000 people, but they're very active.

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:18 Jonathan Seitz

4:19

Jonathan Seitz:

Q: Would you like it to be more widely seen?

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:19 Jonathan Seitz

4:19

Jonathan Seitz:

TK: Going back to Afghanistan with a writer from Gizmodo, hoping to build up its audience

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:19 Jonathan Seitz

4:20

meanfish:

RT @NiemanReports: Aron Pilhofer of NYT: his side project Document Cloud wants to encourage journos to be more transparent #niemanLeaks ... [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:20 meanfish

4:21

Jonathan Seitz:

TK: Other reason behind the project was that USMC changed policy on social media. On local level, commanders still have discretion on implementation, and a lot fo commanders don't want their marines logging in.

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:21 Jonathan Seitz

4:21

kellykwlam:

Heading back to write for the Crimson - thank you #niemanleaks for a wonderfully informative time. [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:21 kellykwlam

4:21

Jonathan Seitz:

TK: another thing: COIN tactics move marines off main bases, so it becomes harder to get online.

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:21 Jonathan Seitz

4:22

Jonathan Seitz:

Q for TK and JB: If we agree that transparency is a virtue, can the cause be served by embedded reporters?

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:22 Jonathan Seitz

4:23

Jonathan Seitz:

JB: Embed means more than just having permission to go. Was staying with AP reporters in a medivac team. In a pinch, you had to carry your own weight.

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:23 Jonathan Seitz

4:24

Jonathan Seitz:

JB: I was conciously aware that I was being a little bit biased, because of all these friendly people saving my life.

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:24 Jonathan Seitz

4:25

Jonathan Seitz:

TK: The only thing that's new is the word. That's teh way wars have always been covered, but it's not the only way.

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:25 Jonathan Seitz

4:26

jonathanstray:

Bohannon on "embedded" reporting: I was always asking myself if I was biased..towards these nice people who were saving my life #niemanleaks [via Twitter]

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:26 jonathanstray

4:26

Jonathan Seitz:

TK: opportunities for independent reporting in Southern Afghanistan are pretty limited. ...Problem with embedded journalism isn't the embedding, it's the journalists, who don't know what they're looking at.

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:26 Jonathan Seitz

4:27

Jonathan Seitz:

TK: I've embedded with Tibetan Monks, Bloods and Crips: bias is always a concern.

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:27 Jonathan Seitz

4:27

Jonathan Seitz:

Q to TK: What kind of news do you put on your newsfeed, and does the military try to influence selections?

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:27 Jonathan Seitz

4:29

Jonathan Seitz:

TK: Newsfeed on site is just scraping. Orig. pulled everything with Afghanistan. Then ended up giving it specific sources: e.g., papers in Afghanistan, Pakistan, other international orgs. "I have heard some complaints that news coming out seems very negative"

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:29 Jonathan Seitz

4:29

Jonathan Seitz:

On that note, the panel is conlcuded.

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:29 Jonathan Seitz

4:30

Jonathan Seitz:

Thanks to everyone who stuck it out all day, and all the content from this conference will be available on the conference page shortly: http://www.nieman.harvard.edu/Microsites/SecrecyAndJournalismInTheNewMediaAge/Home.aspx

Thursday December 16, 2010 4:30 Jonathan Seitz

4:30

Panel III: Future of Transparency